Wow, this is even more interesting from my previous post, I followed a trackback from the blog Logic& Emotion, and was taken to Bitacle. This time it was a Bitacle search result where it had the person’s full blog entry, access to other entries and ads all over.
I DO smell a lawsuit coming. I know this one is under the creative commons license, but does that license give them the right to take bloggers’ content and make money off of it without any deal or mention?
Sure, there’s a link back to the person’s entry, but as they say “Why by the cow, when the milk is for free“? Hell, you can even leave a comment there. Now there is NO reason for a person to visit your blog. Does anyone else know what’s going on? Kevin, let us know when the Netvibes CEO has gotten back to you. Kevin has also noticed Bitacle’s Blogger Spam, but have you investigated where it’s taken you?
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I don’t see any Creative Commons licenses or any copyright statements at all on the source blog — was it removed? Am I missing something obvious? IANAL, but by default if the author doesn’t say anything else you have to assume all rights are reserved other than “fair use” rights — which Bitacle is going WAY beyond.
(Some of the many Creative Commons licenses might actually allow this re-use; depends on the license. Others definitely wouldn’t, such as BY-NC-SA. Not that Bitacle would likely care either way.)
E-mail:
Bitacle es un lector de rss, atom via web.
Como puede ser para correo electrónico via web hotmail, gmail, etc.
Existen el mercado multitud de lectores ya sea por web o a través del sistema operativo que usted utilice.
La licencia solamente se aplica a nuestro sitio para nuestra programación, pero el contenido de la información y la licencia que usted aplique es suya.
Usted debe de controlar los contenidos que suministra a un lector de blogs y el tráfico que recibe de ellos, nadie le obliga a sindicar contenidos.
Atentamente bitacle.
John: If you go to Bitacle’s Main Pageat the bottom in the footer, you’ll see a link that says CC licensing.
Augustin: Interesting comment when I put it in Google Translate. I’d love to have a dialog with you if you have a link /blog/ contact info.
Just in case the google translation messed up something.. “E-mail:
Bitacle is an rss/atom web reader.
As you can read emails in hotmail, gmail, etc.
Theres a lot of RSS Readers in the market, via web or the OS of your choice
Our license only applies for the programming, but the content of the information and the license you apply is yours
Its up to you to control the contents you supply to ablog reader and the traffic you get from them. No one forces you to sindicate content
Yours truly
Bitacle”
How can they respond in that way??
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That’s the same exact response I got when I emailed bitacle@gmail.com (sure hope a spammer catches that!). When I protested again, the basic answer I got was “tough frijoles.” Why should they care, they’re making a bundle off of other people’s writing? Unless my blog host, their ISP, or Google shuts them out, the only solution seems to be feeding excerpts so that readers have to go to the original blog. Might be slightly annoying for readers but it’s no fun for me if they read from an aggregator and never comment. If I lose a few lurkers, so be it.
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Bitacle = thief
Ladrones!! Ladrones!!!
I wrote about this back in March, 2006 and I can assure you that they DON’T care about the Creative Commons license, such as the one we’re using.
Their bot is also “dirty” as it doesn’t obey the “robots.txt” standard and the only way we could stop them is by blocking them via htaccess.
Nice Post.
That was well said. Always appreciate your indepth views. Keep up the great work!
John
Wow. Thanks for such a great post!
You guys rock. Keep doing it!
Loved Your Blog. Very nice. Hope you keep adding more!